Her comment back to me
"I posted the link to the whole article – it’s there for people to read. I can’t republish the whole thing or I’d be infringing upon her copyright. I can only bring out quotes for the purpose of reviewing it which is what I did." - Direct from Fugly Blog -
She then added "And sometimes it is the tool. For example, would you say a cattle prod is OK to use on a horse in the right hands?"
My Reply -
OK, I understand about not being able to post the whole article for copyright reasons. BUT, when people DO read what you do post on here, they seem to have 'blinders' on and just go off on a rant without reading the entire article. Maybe if you post a bit of the rest of the article, without posting the WHOLE thing it could give people a better feel of the entire story, not just the blurb that sounds bad. I know, people should take time to read the WHOLE article, like I did. BUT, horse/animal welfare in general is a 'hot button' issue and sometimes people just jump the gun when they hear something bad. AND to ALL of the people that read FUGLY, PLEASE CLICK ON HER LINK TO THE ENTIRE STORY and process it before 'jumping the gun'
You could have come to my house last year and taken a photo of a horse who was in such bad shape that most of your followers here would have called me all sorts of bad names, called animal control and tried to get me arrested or something. HOWEVER, when people would have gotten THE WHOLE story, straight from the horses' mouth so to speak they would have learned that the horse was a horse that I was 'responsible' for bringing into this world, and felt that I had to help because I was the 'reason' he was in the shape he was in. Let me explain. I owned the momma and daddy, and when my ex and I split the foal was left with my ex. My ex then sold him to a friend, who sold him to a friend of his who starved him to NEAR DEATH and sold him to some people my DH and I know. Those people gave him to us because they didnt know what to do with him. It took almost a year to get him back in good looking condition. BUT, had a photo gotten out.....see how that could have been a mess?
You could drive by a dressage rider using a dressage whip correctly and whipped out your cell phone taken a video clip and posted it on youtube and said that the rider was beating her horse. People would jump all over her! It's crazy! Totally nuts.
AND yes, I believe you can use a cattle prod in a way that doesn't cause 'harm'. You don't HAVE to hit the button that causes the spark, do you? You don't HAVE To put a battery in it to make that electric shock possible! Use it as you would a 'carrot stick' or lunge whip....just an extension of your arm. You don't have to use the shock part of the 'tool'.
Wasn't saying YOU, Cathy have ever rope burned a horse using your 'trailer method', but, give that 'tool' to SOME PEOPLE and that horse would be in a world of hurt!!
It's all about HOW you use it, not WHAT you are using.
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Thursday, March 25, 2010
Wednesday, March 24, 2010
More FUGLY!
I can't help it.....this woman KILLS me! Check out HER post...... Check out the ENTIRE post she references a snippit of....and here is my post on FUGLY's BLOG.
- I see lots of people saying "that's too harsh" or "that's too mean". There are MANY 'tools' suggested here that can be JUST as mean. To me, it's NOT the tool itself, but how you use it.
You can take a Stud Chain and in the wrong hands it can leave perm. scars on a horses face, or better yet, my poor stallion (who is the sweetest on the planet) bumps on the bones in their faces that DO NOT go away.
A spur can be used the proper way, or it can be dug into the horses side until it's raw and bleeding. That goes for ENGLISH as well as WESTERN spurs.
A whip can be used in a mild manner, or it can be used to whip a horse into a bloody mess.
That BUTT ROPE suggested by FUGYL in a prior comment......ummm ROPE burn anyone? I wouldn't call that HUMANE either!
And let's NOT even get started on some of those bits out there!!! You can take the nicest bit, and make a horses mouth bloody and sore. OR, you can take a more harsh bit, and when ridden with soft hands and a good seat have little ill effect on your horse.
And for that matter, something with OUT a bit!!! A bosal! Ever seen a horses face bloody from it's misuse?
People, it's not so much the TOOL it's how it's USED.
I went to Julie's site and read the WHOLE article, not just the little snippit that was mentioned in this post.
She also says - Many people are initially turned off by this approach—I suppose thinking it is cruel or too harsh. But in my opinion, in certain circumstances, it is the most humane approach. I know of a horse who has now kicked and killed two horses by kicking them and breaking their legs. Then, take the case of a stall kicker—whose behavior can cause him serious injury and is destructive to property (and may result in him being evicted from a boarding barn). The most common training technique for this vice is to hang “kicking chains” on the horse’s hind legs which wrap him in the legs every time he kicks (and bumps his legs every time he moves). It will discourage him from kicking but you have to leave the chains on forever—not a very nice thing for the horse. Whereas one or two sessions with the shock collar would permanently cure him of stall kicking and prevent him from injury.
She's NOT telling the people to go out and buy a shock collar and shock the crap out of their horse. She's suggesting it as an 'end of the line' option if you will. Please, FUGLY, post the WHOLE story for people to read, not JUSt that part when taken by itself looks like she's telling them to go out and shock the crap out of their equine!
- I see lots of people saying "that's too harsh" or "that's too mean". There are MANY 'tools' suggested here that can be JUST as mean. To me, it's NOT the tool itself, but how you use it.
You can take a Stud Chain and in the wrong hands it can leave perm. scars on a horses face, or better yet, my poor stallion (who is the sweetest on the planet) bumps on the bones in their faces that DO NOT go away.
A spur can be used the proper way, or it can be dug into the horses side until it's raw and bleeding. That goes for ENGLISH as well as WESTERN spurs.
A whip can be used in a mild manner, or it can be used to whip a horse into a bloody mess.
That BUTT ROPE suggested by FUGYL in a prior comment......ummm ROPE burn anyone? I wouldn't call that HUMANE either!
And let's NOT even get started on some of those bits out there!!! You can take the nicest bit, and make a horses mouth bloody and sore. OR, you can take a more harsh bit, and when ridden with soft hands and a good seat have little ill effect on your horse.
And for that matter, something with OUT a bit!!! A bosal! Ever seen a horses face bloody from it's misuse?
People, it's not so much the TOOL it's how it's USED.
I went to Julie's site and read the WHOLE article, not just the little snippit that was mentioned in this post.
She also says - Many people are initially turned off by this approach—I suppose thinking it is cruel or too harsh. But in my opinion, in certain circumstances, it is the most humane approach. I know of a horse who has now kicked and killed two horses by kicking them and breaking their legs. Then, take the case of a stall kicker—whose behavior can cause him serious injury and is destructive to property (and may result in him being evicted from a boarding barn). The most common training technique for this vice is to hang “kicking chains” on the horse’s hind legs which wrap him in the legs every time he kicks (and bumps his legs every time he moves). It will discourage him from kicking but you have to leave the chains on forever—not a very nice thing for the horse. Whereas one or two sessions with the shock collar would permanently cure him of stall kicking and prevent him from injury.
She's NOT telling the people to go out and buy a shock collar and shock the crap out of their horse. She's suggesting it as an 'end of the line' option if you will. Please, FUGLY, post the WHOLE story for people to read, not JUSt that part when taken by itself looks like she's telling them to go out and shock the crap out of their equine!
Tuesday, March 16, 2010
When Fugly goes too far, AGAIN
Alright people. I'm all for being opinionated! I'm very opinionated myself! But, I don't go dragging people names and reputations through the MUD before knowing the whole story. AND, I dang sure wouldn't be complaining about something I could have put a STOP to and DIDN'T!
Check out Fugly's Blog post here.....Scroll down to 2nd March 15th post titled Are you illiterate, or just asshats? What are YOUR thoughts?
Fuly blog just became un-suspended. Was suspended all day. Links to posts and comments don't work, just main blog page.....hummm....
Jen went to the trouble of email trainer bashed in this post. She posted on her blog, and shared exchange between her and trainer with me.
Some of you may or may not know that FUGLY has a spot in Horse Illustrated (BOOOOO!) Here is the letter I wrote today to Horse Illustrated. I will blog about any reply from Horse Illustrated.
3/16/2010
Dear Horse Illustrated,
I am writing to inform you about the recent activity of one of your contributors. You may already be aware of the situation, but I feel it my ‘duty’ if you will to bring the situation to your attention. You should know what kind of people you have writing for your magazine.
I have a blog. Feel free to check it out at http://texasofallplaces.blogspot.com/. One of your new contributors also has a blog, the “Fugly Horse of the Day” blog . It can be found here http://www.fuglyblog.com/. The subject of this blog is “Snarky commentary on the breeding of poor quality horses, silly or abusive training techniques, and pretty much anything else that annoys me!” That is taken direct from the cached view of the blog on Google. Why am I quoting the cached version? Because the real time version is suspended. Yes, suspended.
Yesterday while searching the blog world I came across a post on “Fugly” titled “Are you illiterate, or just asshats?” In this post “Fugly” ranted and raved about a “a girl entering the ring that I myself had just seen win classes at the last show just a few weeks ago, a girl on a beautiful Appaloosa who was clearly broke to death and then some, sideways lope, wringing tail and all.” “Fugly” flat out accuses said rider and trainer of “taking a chance for a ribbon away from the kids in nylon bridles, the genuinely green horses and the adult riders who were in there for the very first time.” She continues to rant and rave about the horse, rider and trainer and then her “followers” get in on the ranting and raving as well. I will enclose the original post, but I’m unable to print out the comments due to the blog being suspended.
I am the first to admit that I have an opinion and I do voice it. However, I believe that there are some legal issues at hand here, defamation of character perhaps? Dragging numerous persons’ names and reputations through the mud without getting the whole story first? She starts out her rant without ever speaking to the rider or the trainer. Her “followers” start emailing the trainer from fake email addresses and harassing her. A good friend of mine took it upon herself to get the real story. She sent and email from her working email address and had quite a nice exchange with the trainer. What your “Fugly” failed to find out was that, according to the trainer, the exhibitor had permission from the show staff to exhibition the show for practice. Did she fail to use proper show etiquette and flip her number upside down, yes she did.
Had “Fugly” bothered to bring this problem to the attention of the staff before she went on a rant on her blog maybe she would have actually helped those “kids in nylon bridles, the genuinely green horses and the adult riders who were in there for the very first time” that she claimed this rider was hindering, and pointed out to the rider/trainer/show manager that the exhibitor should have her number turned upside down.
This is not the first incident with “Fugly”. A while back she again posted some misinformed information on her blog, got people up in arms and ranting and raving to a horse owner who was down on her luck. Said owner had made arrangements for someone to pick up the horses, but by the time said person could get there so many “Fugly Followers” had called and harassed her that she wouldn't hand over the poor horses because she thought the person picking them up was one of them! So, a handful of horses went un-helped because “Fugly” posts incorrect information on her blog because she acts before she thinks.
I hope that you will take into consideration the kind of people you put on your magazine staff. I also hope that you will check into them, how they act and what they do because that is a direct representation of your magazine.
Check out Fugly's Blog post here.....Scroll down to 2nd March 15th post titled Are you illiterate, or just asshats? What are YOUR thoughts?
Fuly blog just became un-suspended. Was suspended all day. Links to posts and comments don't work, just main blog page.....hummm....
Jen went to the trouble of email trainer bashed in this post. She posted on her blog, and shared exchange between her and trainer with me.
Some of you may or may not know that FUGLY has a spot in Horse Illustrated (BOOOOO!) Here is the letter I wrote today to Horse Illustrated. I will blog about any reply from Horse Illustrated.
3/16/2010
Dear Horse Illustrated,
I am writing to inform you about the recent activity of one of your contributors. You may already be aware of the situation, but I feel it my ‘duty’ if you will to bring the situation to your attention. You should know what kind of people you have writing for your magazine.
I have a blog. Feel free to check it out at http://texasofallplaces.blogspot.com/. One of your new contributors also has a blog, the “Fugly Horse of the Day” blog . It can be found here http://www.fuglyblog.com/. The subject of this blog is “Snarky commentary on the breeding of poor quality horses, silly or abusive training techniques, and pretty much anything else that annoys me!” That is taken direct from the cached view of the blog on Google. Why am I quoting the cached version? Because the real time version is suspended. Yes, suspended.
Yesterday while searching the blog world I came across a post on “Fugly” titled “Are you illiterate, or just asshats?” In this post “Fugly” ranted and raved about a “a girl entering the ring that I myself had just seen win classes at the last show just a few weeks ago, a girl on a beautiful Appaloosa who was clearly broke to death and then some, sideways lope, wringing tail and all.” “Fugly” flat out accuses said rider and trainer of “taking a chance for a ribbon away from the kids in nylon bridles, the genuinely green horses and the adult riders who were in there for the very first time.” She continues to rant and rave about the horse, rider and trainer and then her “followers” get in on the ranting and raving as well. I will enclose the original post, but I’m unable to print out the comments due to the blog being suspended.
I am the first to admit that I have an opinion and I do voice it. However, I believe that there are some legal issues at hand here, defamation of character perhaps? Dragging numerous persons’ names and reputations through the mud without getting the whole story first? She starts out her rant without ever speaking to the rider or the trainer. Her “followers” start emailing the trainer from fake email addresses and harassing her. A good friend of mine took it upon herself to get the real story. She sent and email from her working email address and had quite a nice exchange with the trainer. What your “Fugly” failed to find out was that, according to the trainer, the exhibitor had permission from the show staff to exhibition the show for practice. Did she fail to use proper show etiquette and flip her number upside down, yes she did.
Had “Fugly” bothered to bring this problem to the attention of the staff before she went on a rant on her blog maybe she would have actually helped those “kids in nylon bridles, the genuinely green horses and the adult riders who were in there for the very first time” that she claimed this rider was hindering, and pointed out to the rider/trainer/show manager that the exhibitor should have her number turned upside down.
This is not the first incident with “Fugly”. A while back she again posted some misinformed information on her blog, got people up in arms and ranting and raving to a horse owner who was down on her luck. Said owner had made arrangements for someone to pick up the horses, but by the time said person could get there so many “Fugly Followers” had called and harassed her that she wouldn't hand over the poor horses because she thought the person picking them up was one of them! So, a handful of horses went un-helped because “Fugly” posts incorrect information on her blog because she acts before she thinks.
I hope that you will take into consideration the kind of people you put on your magazine staff. I also hope that you will check into them, how they act and what they do because that is a direct representation of your magazine.
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